tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post2317771988766262841..comments2024-02-14T04:01:44.502-05:00Comments on Prof-like Substance: Pain. For FreeProf-like Substancehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09536241129674490468noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-15699395317342633982009-04-09T10:03:00.000-04:002009-04-09T10:03:00.000-04:00I also have a FANTASTIC undergrad in the lab, and ...I also have a FANTASTIC undergrad in the lab, and she will be working with us all summer. I'm looking forward to it.Prof-like Substancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09536241129674490468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-58615963307115477282009-04-09T08:07:00.000-04:002009-04-09T08:07:00.000-04:00Good decision PLS. I wish I could find a way to ge...Good decision PLS. I wish I could find a way to get rid of my awful UgS. The plus side is that I have one fantastic UgS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-88924683179414914292009-04-08T10:05:00.000-04:002009-04-08T10:05:00.000-04:00I let the office know this morning that I was not ...I let the office know this morning that I was not interested in having UgS in the lab through the summer. We'll see whether that makes it harder for me to get students funded through them in the future, but I agree that the potential for disaster was far greater than the possibility of UgS surprising us all and doing good work. It was the right thing to do for this summer and hopefully in the long run as well.Prof-like Substancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09536241129674490468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-43869092204807108532009-04-07T23:07:00.000-04:002009-04-07T23:07:00.000-04:00I totally agree with everyone else. Look at it th...I totally agree with everyone else. Look at it this way: as the PI, part of your responsibility is providing a good lab environment for your trainees and saddling your grad students with a "giant time-sucking vacuum" is probably not the way to do it.Mad Hatterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12848061207872125237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-19368217986003691372009-04-07T21:03:00.000-04:002009-04-07T21:03:00.000-04:00UgS must be premed. I wouldn't do it.UgS must be premed. I wouldn't do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-7943166471775353352009-04-07T20:52:00.000-04:002009-04-07T20:52:00.000-04:00I agree on the suggestion to get rid of the studen...I agree on the suggestion to get rid of the student. We had one exactly like this and it was probably the best thing that happened to them. Ended up realizing that they really weren't suited for that type of work, entered a brief training program after getting their B.S., and ended up with a great job at a large biotech company.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-67424643662652589302009-04-07T14:40:00.000-04:002009-04-07T14:40:00.000-04:00I agree that the time is probably better spent adv...I agree that the time is probably better spent advancing students who will go on in science, and UgS, from my estimation based on their work in the last few months, is not one of those students. Based on that, the best thing to do is likely to suggest that another student be provided an opportunity.Prof-like Substancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09536241129674490468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-69483431434505389562009-04-07T14:21:00.000-04:002009-04-07T14:21:00.000-04:00Students like UgS are the bane of my existence. It...Students like UgS are the bane of my existence. It drives me nuts when unmotivated/uninterested students get the fellowships and the students who live and breathe science get shafted.Eugeniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01312243477847551650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-17682151910380948762009-04-07T14:19:00.000-04:002009-04-07T14:19:00.000-04:00It's a simple answer really isn't it?It's a simple answer really isn't it?tideliarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12570056632131128856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-58277202283479705002009-04-07T11:33:00.000-04:002009-04-07T11:33:00.000-04:00whether I want to invite a giant time-sucking vacu...<I>whether I want to invite a giant time-sucking vacuum into the lab</I><BR/><BR/>I think you just answered your question.Comrade Physioprofhttp://physioprof.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-56469908146633467282009-04-07T11:29:00.000-04:002009-04-07T11:29:00.000-04:00Have you had a "what the heck do you want to ...Have you had a "what the heck do you want to do with your summer/life" with UgS? <BR/><BR/>I've trained good & bad students as a grad student & postdoc and sometimes the best thing for them is to let them go. If you tell them to explore other options, they might actually find something they are good at. However, if you drag them along, the quiting later is much more painful...Patchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09097638657085263738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-17340955529389581962009-04-07T11:22:00.000-04:002009-04-07T11:22:00.000-04:00Hmm. Do I understand correctly here: UgS has been...Hmm. Do I understand correctly here: UgS has been in your lab for some amount of time now, started out as a waste of space and despite your & your grad student's best efforts, remains a waste of space? <BR/><BR/>This may sound harsh, but screw it - dump the loser. "Promoting diversity" is one thing, but it's another to pour time and effort into a lost cause. If someone has been given an opportunity and they are squandering it, it is not your responsibility to try to force them to succeed. At some point, this student needs to take responsibility for their own success.DamnGoodTechnicianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07853842935140592563noreply@blogger.com