tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post1112455459188412113..comments2024-02-14T04:01:44.502-05:00Comments on Prof-like Substance: Sobering summaryProf-like Substancehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09536241129674490468noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-56450087985780129412009-10-05T11:20:08.803-04:002009-10-05T11:20:08.803-04:00Thank goodness I work for the government. Granted,...Thank goodness I work for the government. Granted, I have a ton of useless paperwork to handle as well, but I don't have to crawl on my hands and knees for money to keep my lab up and running.Thomas Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06146918395558249696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-61260327454664169242009-10-02T08:40:32.449-04:002009-10-02T08:40:32.449-04:00Oh, I'm not hung up on the rejections, it'...Oh, I'm not hung up on the rejections, it's part of the deal. It's just interesting to see the sum total of a shit-load of effort summarized on a page and knowing that this page is all I have to show for it. <br /><br />It'll work out eventually, if only because they'll be sick of seeing my damn grant and just throw money at me to get me to stop. I'm taking Andy's library letter writing campaign right out of Shawshank Redemption. <br /><br />PiT, I have been keeping a file on all of the things I have been doing so I can slap it into the annual review. I just got last year's report from the next-most-junior-faculty member as an example, which is really useful. He put in more text then I had envisioned though, so this may take longer than I thought.Prof-like Substancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09536241129674490468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-17439745450767499522009-10-02T08:33:07.849-04:002009-10-02T08:33:07.849-04:00That which does not kill you, and somesuch. As lo...That which does not kill you, and somesuch. As long as you can keep your own self separate from the rejections ("I'm a terrible scientist because these grants keep getting rejected"), which many of my friends are wont to do, you'll be fine.<br /><br />(Not that you're looking for platitudes...)DamnGoodTechnicianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17476513531404188618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-46384026351186819082009-10-01T23:02:09.375-04:002009-10-01T23:02:09.375-04:00For every rejection, my friend, you are that much ...For every rejection, my friend, you are that much closer to success. Given that you are not a moron, probability is something that you can count on. Keep at it.Candid Engineerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01722793931639972423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-60617771652103646802009-10-01T22:30:09.268-04:002009-10-01T22:30:09.268-04:00No Thank Yous suck. I only want Sure, Here You Go...No Thank Yous suck. I only want Sure, Here You Gos. <br /><br />Won't your school look positively at the time you spent putting together the submissions, regardless of outcome? I would. <br /><br />Plus, remember that Zig Zigler said something like "Every no gets you closer to a yes." Good luck on the two out there!<br /><br />word verification: thescrac. It sounds like what people who say no to us deserve: the scrac!Inkhttp://inktopia.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-48313118596745282992009-10-01T21:07:46.041-04:002009-10-01T21:07:46.041-04:00You and I are pretty much on par with each other o...You and I are pretty much on par with each other on this. Our annual reviews run Jan-Dec and thus far in 2009, I've submitted 5 grants with similar budgets to the ones you described and have 3 rejections, 1 very small one (<$10K) funded and the big-ass R01 ($1.25M) being reviewed today/tomorrow (eeeek). I have 3 more going out before Christmas which will make n=8 for the year. I figure that if I keep trying, a review panel will slip up at some stage and mistakenly award me a ton of cash.<br /><br />Re the review stuff: I was advised to make notes of everything I do throughout the year and to keep everything together in the same file, folder or drawer so that I have easy access when review time rolls around (I'm so anal that I also keep everything listed on a spreadsheet). Our reviews are compiled online so every month, I add stuff to my online file so that I'm not stuck typing it all in at the end of the year.Professor in Traininghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10903558307394806532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-71124374855050561842009-10-01T19:12:10.386-04:002009-10-01T19:12:10.386-04:00You won't need another 20 applications. It sou...You won't need another 20 applications. It sounds like you have your act together much more so than I did.Odysseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14589096873729951466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-35420686840184399422009-10-01T16:04:14.070-04:002009-10-01T16:04:14.070-04:00You have plenty of shit to copy and paste now. Ke...You have plenty of shit to copy and paste now. Keep sending them in, one will stick sometime. Then we'll partay with you! jcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-70899619023589399682009-10-01T15:53:12.590-04:002009-10-01T15:53:12.590-04:00I'm not sure if I should feel better or vomit ...I'm not sure if I should feel better or vomit at the prospect of 20 more potential rejections. <br /><br />The good news is that after talking with my PO, I'm feeling decent about my bread and butter proposal that went in in July, but we'll see.Prof-like Substancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09536241129674490468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2793086675277097176.post-84655245654274397892009-10-01T15:48:33.314-04:002009-10-01T15:48:33.314-04:00It took me 3.5 years to get my first major grant f...It took me 3.5 years to get my first major grant funded...<br />Does that help?Odysseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14589096873729951466noreply@blogger.com